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[insert mandatory remarks about how I don't post here nearly often enough, and comments about the rapid passage of time]

So, the beginning of June, all I knew about Teen Wolf (the tv show, I'd seen the 80s movies of course) was that it wasn't very good but the guys were frequently shirtless (this knowledge mostly came from passing references on After Elton, I believe). Since I've never had a particular interest in werewolves, I had no reason to seek it out. Nothing particularly against them, but I rarely even read werewolf AUs in fandoms I like.

But then, [livejournal.com profile] meelie pimped season 1 at Sinpozium (impression afterwards: still didn't look great, but the shirtless guys were frequently homoerotic with each other, and there were some potentially interesting things about the show). And I was like "hmmm, I dunno, I have many high or medium quality tv shows I should get around to finishing (or starting)." I poked at some fic that she and [livejournal.com profile] alasen recommended, and then they somehow managed to make me come down sick soon after Sinpozium, and when I was off-work, I somehow decided it was a good idea to download and watch the entire of season 1 and the first two episodes of season 2 in one day (all that had aired thus far). 14 episodes of Teen Wolf in one day. I blame mind control, or possibly drugs. I did make use of the ffwd button for especially tedious Scott/Allison moments.



And my thoughts were becoming more specific: "this show has HUGE pacing problems", "some of this CGI makes Smallville look good", "oh my god, Scott is so boring and/or annoying, no wonder no one talks about him", "wow, Derek's life sucks SO MUCH", "why does Allison put up with Scott anyway?", "how is Lydia so fucking flawless?", "why isn't Danny in this show more?", "Martouf!", and most importantly, "STILES I LOVE YOU! WHY ARE YOU NOT THE MAIN CHARACTER!!1!"

But despite the fact that many of those are complaints, the season had ended strongly, and there was stuff I was intrigued by, and not just so I could keep up with show references in fanfic. Plus, I'd fallen for some of the characters (most especially Stiles (and his dad), Derek and Lydia). And the guys really are shirtless more often than not (except, tragically, Stiles).

The show is also very easy to just keep watching, despite the flaws, because it's basically all one on-going storyline. Episodes often pick up right where the last one left off (or cliffhangered), and the entire show has actually only taken place over a couple of months (when full moons are a plot point, its noticeable).

So I've kept watching, and 2x09 airs tomorrow. And now I'm fairly hooked on this show, in that I care about the characters and am genuinely interested in the plot. I'm...still not sure how that happened - I was just here for the porn!. But season 2 is just so much better than season 1, in terms of making the main character and his relationship sympathetic, in terms of plot and pacing, they've expanded the cast (it's still pretty damn white, but improvements are improvements), and I think their budget is bigger. I can't think of another show that I've seen improve so much, addresssing many of the major legit criticisms of itself. It's still not Buffy, but damn, it'd really like to be some of the time. Plus, there's canonical undercover-in-a-gay-bar.

And at this point, I'm just sitting back and enjoying the crazy ride that is the show's interaction with fandom. Because they not only acknowledge the major slash pairing, Derek/Stiles (it gets asked about it a lot by fans), they are now using videos of the actors cuddling to bribe fandom into voting for the show at the Teen Choice Awards - and it worked! And the out showrunner claims he is considering it within the show. I don't care, they can keep messing with us, so far, it doesn't make me uncomfortable the way show/fan interaction often does.

This is Scott. He's the best friend of Stiles, oh, and I guess he's the major (titular) character of the show. He used to be extremely boring and annoying a lot of the time, with three main pasttimes - whining about having been bitten and becoming a werewolf, lacrosse, and Allison. Lately, he's still obsessed with Allison, but is way less annoying about it and is way more tolerable in general. Still dumb as a post most of the time. How he is his mother's child (she's kickass) is anyone's guess.



Oh yes, lacrosse is the sport of choice in Beacon Hills (it's like field hockey, but the sticks have nets on the end). You will see a lot of it, watching Teen Wolf. It doesn't get much more interesting in the show over time, except when people nearly kill each other on the pitch. Or sniff their teammates. My headcanon on why everyone is so obsessed with it is that a) there's not a lot to do in Beacon Hills (though there is a large gay nightclub...) and/or they decided to focus on being good at a sport that wasn't as competitive as football or basketball.

Stiles Stilinski (actual first name unknown as it is apparently unpronounceable) and Scott are BFF4EVA, which I think is the major reason Scott is still alive, as Stiles is the brains of the operation. He's also funny, inventive, brave, awesome, has a great relationship with his dad (and sadness due to dead mother), pines for Lydia, worries that he isn't attractive to gay guys, and is generally the best thing since the last great sidekick to totally steal a show from the main character. He's like Willow and Xander had a baby, who takes after Seth from The OC.




This is Allison. She spends far too much mooning over Scott (inexplicably), but is pretty awesome when given the chance. Her dad, a fairly important character, is Martouf from Stargate and her mother is SCARY (and grandpa in season 2 is from BSG).




Derek is terminally sad. Often in tightfitting henleys, tank tops or just shirtless (sometimes while doing pushups). He is a werewolf with a tragic backstory, that just keeps getting more tragic as the story unfolds. He spends a lot of time inappropriately hanging around the high school, or breaking into underage guys' bedrooms. He's made some dodgy life choices in season 2, but I keep forgiving him, and the show is way less interesting in Derek-lite episodes.




He and Stiles are boyfriends and/or destined mates, according to fandom. And fandom is right. 70% of TW fic on AO3 is Derek/Stiles (sadly known as Sterek *shudder*). Their actual interaction on the show is actually more antagonistic than you might assume if you just went by fandom, but they really do have interesting chemistry. And by that, I mean Derek shouldn't just push Stiles up against walls, he should fuck him against one.



Lydia is a goddess. Starts off seeming like stereotypical kinda-mean and vapid girl, but is actually smarter than everybody and deserves to be treated way better than she is.



Jackson is a big bag of dicks, whom I alternate between wanting to smack, and feeling sorry for him while still wantiing to smack him. Dating Lydia at start of show. Rich, captain of lacrosse team, kinda a big deal at school. Frequently shirtless.



This is Danny, who is Jackson's best (and probably only) friend. Danny is gay (canonically). In Teen Wolf universe, the showrunner chooses to believe that there's not such thing as homophobia. Sadly, this doesn't mean Danny is central to the plot most of the time, but he is a generally awesome human being who somehow puts up with Jackson. Possibly, he's a saint. There's been a bit more of him in season 2. Also shirtless at times. Seriously, Stiles is the only boy in town who wears clothes on a regular basis.



This is Scott's boss, Dr Deaton the vet. Is awesome. Should probably have own spinoff.



There are other characters, but many of them are spoilery. You might have noticed a lack of photos of werewolves. The makeup isn't very attractive, that's why.

So, who else is watching it? I see you on twitter and/or tumblr (or at least I see it spreading amongst the Aucklanders like a plague). Talk to me about the wonder that is Stiles, or Lydia, or Derek's pecs, or whatever. (ps - am spending more time on my tumblr lately, but mostly just reblogging amusing Teen Wolf, Marvel-verse and Glee (plus misc assorted other) stuff that I want to keep.)

In conclusion:

Date: 2012-07-23 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quiet000001.livejournal.com
Stiles is so the reason to watch the show. The actor also seems pretty darn cool.

Scott completely baffles me - he is STUPID. SO STUPID. And I am not really invested in his relationship with Allison at all (to be fair, I'm only on ep 11 of season 1 so maybe season 2 will be better) so it's like 'oh, him. Stiles? No Stiles. FAST FORWARD!'

Stiles and Derek make for a much more interesting and intriguing relationship, even if it never goes *there* - I think because even though they're really pretty antagonistic most of the time, the way they interact you can kind of see how they'd be good for each other if they had a chance to figure out how to get along without some major disaster as a distraction. Like, Derek doesn't underestimate Stiles, and lord knows Derek needs some of Stiles' energy and snark in his approach to life?

Date: 2012-07-23 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erilyn.livejournal.com
He really really is. He's the best of the young actors on the show, just got great screen presence, comic timing and can break your heart for the drama.

I was so shocked when I suddenly found Scott and Allison cute and endearing (at times) in season 2, it really does improve.

I am all about the potential in Stiles/Derek, and I hope the show just at least gives us a lot more of them interacting, no matter what else happens.

Date: 2012-07-23 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melpemone.livejournal.com
I enjoyed the pimp quite a bit, and they are unstoppably adorable, but my limit for great-slash-pairing-terrible-script-and-effects was hit back during my Stargate: SG1 phase. :) Which is a damn shame, really. But if Derek/Stiles became canon, you would never find a faster convert. :D

Date: 2012-07-23 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erilyn.livejournal.com
The show is getting pretty good these days, so if you're able to suffer through the problems of season 1, there are rewards in season 2 :) [livejournal.com profile] arysteia watched an episode with me when she was here and was like "I have no idea what's going on, but that wasn't anywhere near as bad as you guys joke, it looked quite interesting".

Though compared to something like SG1, the effects here are very limited :) MTV spends more time picking out the songs for the soundtrack...

Date: 2012-07-23 03:39 pm (UTC)
sperrywink: (TW_byLittle_Oddities_Stiles)
From: [personal profile] sperrywink
I got into Teen Wolf last winter. I'm kind of amazed at how it has taken off. *g*

Stiles is one of the best characters on tv, IMHO.

Date: 2012-07-23 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erilyn.livejournal.com
I know, I feel like I jumped on the bandwagon at exactly the same time as many many other. Plus, its just a tipping point, when discussion/mentions of it rise, people who were already watching but not saying anything join in the conversation too, I feel. Hopefully it'll lead to more good fic!

And I totally agree. And I really do hope it's the start of a good career for the actor.

Date: 2012-07-23 07:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
I'm watching, and like Sperrywink have been amazed at the sudden popularity of the show.

Stiles and Lydia are all kinds of amazing, and yeah, I agree with the people who describe Scott as a potato. It says something that his very few sensible moments provoke amazed emails.

Date: 2012-07-23 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erilyn.livejournal.com
Ahahahaha, I hadn't seen that particular comparison. My favourite moments are the ones where the show acknowledges that Scott is stupid and that his obsession with Allison is over-the-top (season 1 finale scenes between Peter and Stiles, for instance).

Why aren't Stiles and Lydia the main characters? Just imagine the amazing show in that reality...

And I really need some TW icons!

Date: 2012-07-24 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elegantcrimes.livejournal.com
I just started it now and I hate supernatural themed fandoms but I felt like I had to give this a chance. I know basically nothing I am not even done with episode one. :-/

Date: 2012-07-24 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erilyn.livejournal.com
Al I can say is that I am glad I stuck with it :). I can spam you with more photos/gifs if you need encouragement!

Date: 2012-07-24 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydia-petze.livejournal.com
I gave this a go and ran out of steam quite early on (and me, the werewolf-lover!) but maybe I should try it again :)

Date: 2012-07-24 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erilyn.livejournal.com
I am glad now that I stuck with it, it might have helped that I'm not invested in werewolves and don't have expectations? I dont know, but s1 is pretty dire at times, how far did you get?

Date: 2012-07-28 12:23 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ariadne83.livejournal.com
I skipped season one - just watched the condensed recap MTV released - and started with season two. By the sounds of it that was a good decision...

Date: 2012-07-28 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erilyn.livejournal.com
I'd probably suggest looking for some fan highlight reels too, to get all the good Derek/Stiles bits. Or once you've developed a fondness (and thus built up some tolerance), then checking out some of the s1 eps, like 4, 9 and 12.

Date: 2012-07-24 12:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jjjean65.livejournal.com
I've seen it a bit around on tumblr and wondered if I should give it a go (I'm more a vampire than werewolf gal). Most people on tumblr seem to be of your opinion - to stick it out with the boring Scott season one to get to the 'good stuff'.

Date: 2012-07-24 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erilyn.livejournal.com
It's not like there isn't some good bits to season 1 (especially in eps 4, 9 and 11-12), but season 2 is a big improvement.

I'm not particularly into either werewolves or vampires, but there's always an exception (I adore the Buffyverse, and as I said, while they aren't really comparable, this show would like to be Buffy at times). And Stiles = Love.

Date: 2012-07-24 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cool-rain-kiss.livejournal.com
Teen Wolf has been my LIFE lately, God help me. ALSO REALLY, HOW IS SCOTT STILL ALIVE??? Here's hoping Stiles never goes on vacation ever.

Date: 2012-07-24 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erilyn.livejournal.com
Oh god, Stiles would have to book Scott into somewhere, like putting your dog in a kennel when going away.

Date: 2012-07-26 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueboxers.livejournal.com
I thought Danny was suppose to get a love interest this season....

Date: 2012-07-26 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erilyn.livejournal.com
I try not to read spoilers, so I wouldn't know if that'd been something said.

Date: 2012-07-29 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueboxers.livejournal.com
Oops, sorry. Obviously that is a good idea to not read spoilers. :D Well they didn't mention an ex of Danny's from the rave gone wrong/Jackson...

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